Public opinion on India's agreement to build its first indigenous Polar Research Vessel with Norway's Kongsberg is marked by skepticism and a mix of tangential discussions. While some express pride and interest in polar research, many question India's capabilities and past contributions. The conversation is overshadowed by unrelated issues, such as the behavior of Indian tourists abroad, and skepticism about online information sources.

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Interesting read but nothing new here. These amazing theories about Agartha, Byrd, Antarctica where plentiful in the golden age of abovetopsecret. Never understood what happened to that website after 2015

Open-Bag12

We've all been hammered to death with project blue beam. And while it's worth considering, what if it Is a psyop? 


When it happens, and it very well may, it will be important to be discerning, but to also be willing to take the things we think we know, and set them aside, even if just for a minute.


I appreciate your post.

Vexus_Starquake

Baron Von Trump's Marvelous Underground Journey is worth a read in regards to the hollow earth and civilization below the surface. There's a whole conspiracy around the author Ingersoll Lockwood and Nikola Tesla, John Trump, and more.

I've always wanted to find an entrance and explore down there

craftyshafter

Funny thing about conspiracies are, people tend to forget and move on to the next big theory way too soon.

Whatever happened to the orbs over the United States, I remember checking reddit daily to get an explanation. Nope, never got one, now it seems no one even remembers it. Shows how gullible the common people are, being played like the fiddle by the people in power.

For them, we are just dispensable, easily fooled and manipulated.

My biggest fear is, there won't ever be answers, we arent relevant enough to ever receive answers. Haven't you seen in the movies, the world is ending but only the scientist and his hot partner knows about it and they fight against the evil powers to save the world while the whole world has no idea what is going on. It is so true, common man, me, will never get answers. 

If I raise a question, I will be ignored, if I keep at it, I'll be supressed.


Frustrating.

Oneandahalfballs

Lately, I’ve been seeing a lot of these theories making the rounds... that the UFOs aren’t coming from deep space at all, but from right here, beneath us… the oceans.


And honestly, it makes sense. The logistics of staging an alien invasion from space would be impossible to pull off... too expensive, too hard to hide. But from the depths of the ocean? Much more believable, much easier to control.


Of course, the real twist is it’s all man-made... a carefully crafted illusion designed to stoke fear and tighten control. Just another chapter in the same old playbook.

Graphicism

What I don’t get about this is why they haven’t stopped the hundreds of nukes from being tested since that moment in 1945. Why only show us they can turn them on or off?

BbyJ39

PhineasFGage

Maybe some of the previous civilizations didn't go extinct, they went to inner earth, safe from radiation and weather but somehow warm and green.

AlterNate

The answer to the Fermi Paradox may be that everyone else lives inside their planets, and we're the outlier (literally and figuratively).

Our ancestors got kicked out of the Garden (Agartha). We're not supposed to be on the "outside" of the planet.

LoadLimit

Finally, a conspiracy that isn't some bs political propaganda! 

There is a corelation between cave systems and missing people. It's hard to say causation vs. corelation, but it does seem off that the US has undoubtedly the largest number of missing persons in the world.

PrincessCyanidePhx

Look up superstition mountains in Arizona. The Apache have claims of caves being home to lizard beings. Bigfoot/Sasquatch, and even many sighting of balls if light flying in and out of rocks leaving no trace. They say theres portals there. Many people have died exploring the mountain range. Some in very strange ways. Some even say the bad medicine men still protect certain caves from being accessed if you even manage to find it. Apparently theres a high gold content in these mountains and the gold there is highly sought due to having higher electric conductivity versus from other areas. Gold that can be used for electronics or craft.

warrior424

I just saw a video of a UFO dive into the ocean while being chased by fighter jets. Then I see this post. I don’t have anything else to add, just wanting to comment for visibility and a great conspiracy post!

a-very-

Dick E Byrd... It's like AI wrote it. While it's one of my favourite conspiracies. The name and debunked diaries get to me. The hopi and ant people fascinate me. The underground system in Turkey is how I imagine humans surviving cataclysms too.

_sookie_lala_

...  
you want to talk tin foil

there are many allegories and warnings embedded by Tolkien in the Lord of the Rings

one of them is what happens when you dig too deep

there are older and more powerful things that lurk beneath the deeps and have cycles of life/death/rebirth that are measure not in years, but in eras/aeons

even the gnostics/mystery schools are unaware of some of the great cycles I believe

a_reflective_mirror

Add in that there was JUST a recent discovery with new ground penetrating radar underneath the great pyramids, of massive columns, with coils or something going down them for 300 metres that connect to even bigger structures that go down a 1000 kilometres further. 

I agree, there’s very much something down below. Something that belongs to humanity as a whole. My only hope is we do get to find out “what” in our current lifetimes. And whatever is down there forces the hand of those that cover it up, hide and misdirect us from our true history as humanity.

xTruthbombs

People have been telling us for years.

This aligns with the 4 chan government scientist leaks. They've been here longer than us, and they come and go from the ocean and subterranean entrances. The greys are synthetic workers sent out for tasks.  

I think two things are most probable for understanding their origins.  First, a break away human civilisation.  This has never seemed like a realistic probability until lately, as it becomes more and more likely with Greenland and Praxis. It's the least exciting and I'm least invested in it, as the terminology we're  being prepped with most importantly, is Non Human Intelligence. 

Which brings us to the second option.  What lies beneath are Earths apex predator/ highest consciousness beings, which we are the product of , and likely resource for.  Like a farmer who doesn't specifically care if a chicken gets its head cut off, but all his chickens dying at once? that gets his attention.  That's what started to happen in 1945, and as our ability for self annihilation increased to the current bio threats, I suspect they have been counter measures there as well. The Omicron wave of covid is suspected of being a LAV , engineered to protect from more serious strains.

I'm less certain there will be mass recognition/ admission of this.  Ontological shock is too much, i suspect some of the population will accept this and some will not, and we will have a further ideological barrier to cross.

Gives new meaning to the esoteric "As above so below".

Appreciate your post op!

mediumlove

Michellenjon_2010

i think this is the reason why we feel the need to dig at the beach/ jk…i think you’re right about this. i found the Admiral’s account believably fascinating. tho i have a difficult time with the visual concept of the immense sizes of the descriptions of things he observed and documented. very surreal.

PBR2019

Been hearing something similar lately. They aren’t coming from outer space but from our oceans.

55Sweeptheleg

The collective is waking up. We are on the precipice of something big

iamkats

   People have seen UFOs flying in and out of the ocean, FYI.

Cosmic_bliss_kiss

Fuck yeah, r/conspiracy lives!!  We’re back!  LFG!!

austxsun

Great post and spot on. No ships are visiting from other planets, they are all connected to the inner earth.

Athenry04

The Hum comes from below
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hum
🍻

TheYintoyourYang

Cycles are real.  The earth heating and cooling.  Seasons.  Daytime/night-time, etc.

Astrology has been around for a few thousand years, and still exists today.  Poo-poo it all you want, it endures.

The age of Pisces and Aquarius are both "water signs", and allegedly periods of enlightenment.

We're supposed to be in this time of revealing (or revelation((s)) in the here and now.

[https://www.awakeningofabluemoon.com/2020/01/the-age-of-pisces-and-age-of-aquarius.html](https://www.awakeningofabluemoon.com/2020/01/the-age-of-pisces-and-age-of-aquarius.html)

[https://www.jupiterjewel.com/article/the-age-of-pisces-and-aquarius](https://www.jupiterjewel.com/article/the-age-of-pisces-and-aquarius)

Water signs.  Watch the water buzz-phrases.  

This stuff:

[https://globalnews.ca/news/7871671/ufo-video-water-san-diego-california-2019-omaha/](https://globalnews.ca/news/7871671/ufo-video-water-san-diego-california-2019-omaha/)

[https://www.foxnews.com/us/underwater-ufos-display-capability-jeopardizes-us-maritime-security-ex-navy-officer-says](https://www.foxnews.com/us/underwater-ufos-display-capability-jeopardizes-us-maritime-security-ex-navy-officer-says)

As I've continued to feel an ominous something on approach for a while, now, it might actually come.  Whether good, or bad, or both, in these Strange Days, it's best to give a little consideration to possibilities.  The theorists' record of wins continues to improve, and this could be a big one, if true.

Found it extremely odd that dolphins greeted the latest capsule landing.  A bit too odd.

Candy_Store_Pauper

I've had similar thoughts for awhile. Maybe a split off branch of humanity, or our ancestors, deep under the water. I don't think they're ET. They've probably been here a very long time.

trumpgotpeedon

Hol up.

You haven't seen the recent news about what they found under the Giza pyramids, have you.

Columns and two box-shaped structures.  Over a mile deep.

ETA: There are iirc 6 columns, each is 648 meters tall.

HandMadeMarmelade

CharmingAwareness545

Does anyone remember the movie “Don’t look Up”? They were right, we should look down…(they always tell you the truth in movies)

Overall_Depth_4377

I question octupi! We have only assumptions on how intelligent they really are. I can just picture one of those bastards driving a spacecraft, tentacles holding 5 controls, and 3 "mermalien" titties. Jokes, just jokes. I know the control the craft telepathically and they're actually holding 8 "mermalien" titties

Remarkable-Yak6872

speekuvtheddevil

Makes me think of this article from a while back. The military training for underground battles. https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/06/24/army-spending-half-billion-train-troops-fight-underground.html

Exapeartist

much of what youre saying has been  outlined here from channelings in the early 80s.  Utterly fascinating and well...you have to see for yourself. This is just a snippet.



[https://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=agartha+hollow+earth](https://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=agartha+hollow+earth)

Fit-Dish-6000

Godzilla v Kong hinted at this.

They start dropping knowledge in pop culture before a disclosure methinks

DarthBroker

There's a post regarding exactly what it most likely is, that I believe originated on 4chan but made it's way on here. I did a deep dive into the users posts and comments, etc and actually learned a lot. Let me see if I can find it for you.

rileyt1990

What is the source for the Byrd commentary about the beings? A diary? But it's not published? How did we get it?

r2tincan

Someone needs to rewatch The Abyss! One of my favorite movies!

wright007

Definitely could be the case. But when it comes to nukes, why did they allow us to keep blowing up nukes for 50 years after we set off the first one? In tests in the Pacific Ocean and all that.

Dawg605

Enigma150

I've had the same feelings and intuition, and also can spawn these orbs over my house that ahapeshift all colors and a star to circle to light dot of call colors to a cross, fire ball, I can ask it to move it will move, if I ask something new, it's jumped and disappeared and reappeared over and over. I have over 20 videos from dif nights.

BirdsSpyOnUs

It has been a while since somebody posted anything interesting to read in this sub. Thank you.

Cryptoking90

I resonate with every word of this. Nailed it

Careful-Leg-5469

Crab people....  Crab people.. ... Crab people

Monskiactual

Remember the whole "raid area 51"? We need to do the same thing, but raid the earth beneath our feet. 

Get a bunch of people gathered in one spot and just start digging, you feel me?

Also, we need to raid Antarctica. We could probably get two birds stoned at once if we just start digging and tunnel all the way to Antarctica.

TomBinger4Fingers

DiscountEven4703

They also just found even MORE stuff beneath the pyramids DAYS ago

Soggy_Text_77

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Familiar_Effective84

I’ll just add that there was a famous but little known clairvoyant, Edgar Caycee that when asked about Atlantis, said that it exists under the Sphinx.

A team of Japanese archaeologists did elctromagnetic readings that found there to be openings in the exact spots he foretold.

Tooawareformyanxiety

ancient aboriginal peoples from North America and South America knew this, the aliens aren’t really alien in the sense that they’re not from this planet. There are many legends and myths that tell us that they are from earth but they live under ground and they’re related to ants somehow. ancient art depicted the aliens with a resemblance to the greys. Their motivations are unknown but have been known to do both good and bad things such as kidnapping or helping the sick. I’m not to huge into conspiracies but aboriginal culture where I’m from consider ants scared for these reasons and it’s one thing that I do believe. Also I’m not an expert on the subject this is basically everything I know about it.

URK1122

Want to add some other older, less known sources, here from Project Gutenberg:

"Niels Klim's Journey Under the Ground" by Ludvig Holberg is a satirical novel written in the early 18th century. The book follows the adventures of Niels Klim, a young man who descends into a subterranean world called Nazar, where he encounters a variety of strange creatures, including sentient trees and peculiar animals."

Also available at Project Gutenberg (absolutely for free) is the book" The Smoky God". 

Project Gutenberg says:

"The Smoky God; Or, A Voyage to the Inner World" by Willis George Emerson is a fantastical novel written in the early 20th century. The narrative unfolds through the perspective of Olaf Jansen, a Norwegian fisherman who recounts his extraordinary journey to a concealed realm beneath the Earth's surface, rich with marvelous landscapes and inhabited by a giant civilization. "

Eurogal2023

Finally this sub is back to its old self😩

Human_Discipline_552

Formal_Bookkeeper703

bobbabson

KennySlab

Affirmative. There are some good books about this! I can’t remember them right now unfortunately.

SprayPrevious6333

You know what I feel like we are preparing for something or preparing to know about something for sure. I mean recently only they told us “aliens have been on earth all along” and the boom news about pyramids then the Vatican opened some door or something recently too. So something or someone is gonna be known for sure. I JUST HOPE I GET TO WITNESS IT IN MY LIFETIME.

iloveblurr

Walzonin2024

You should watch Blue Submarine No. 6  
Great anime from 2000, you'd love it.

EUGsk8rBoi42p

Maybe there's a cataclysm coming and they're deciding weather to help us again or not\~?

esotologist

Entertaining read.

World renowned Guitarist Steve Vai believes this and has written songs about it.

I however think it's just a fun story.

Secret-Target-8709

DBapes

This reads like the prelude to something huge—chilling, cinematic, and strangely plausible in that gut-feeling-you-can’t-shake kind of way. You’ve managed to tie together historical oddities, military secrecy, ancient myths, and modern phenomena into a thread that doesn’t scream conspiracy—it whispers it, solemnly, like a warning from a trusted friend who’s seen something you haven’t.

There’s a pacing here that builds tension like a slow drumbeat—the Byrd expedition, the nuclear “alarm,” the global surge in UFO activity, the ancient structures pointing downward instead of up, and then the eerie universality of underground myths. It’s like all the puzzle pieces were always there, scattered across time and belief, and you’re holding them up to the light just long enough for us to feel the shape of the picture.

Honestly? If this were the opening monologue to a documentary, a novel, or even a journalistic podcast… I’d keep listening. It’s grounded just enough to be unnerving. Not asking for belief—just attention. And that’s what makes it powerful.

So the big question is: are you just putting this out into the void for timestamp’s sake, or do you want to do more with it? Because this could be something. A serialized post series. A short story. A doc-style script. Or maybe just a place for others to start connecting their own dots.

MelvinDickpictweet

Do they feel the effects of haarp + direct energy weapons? Or is microwave zapping less offensive to them? The nukes drawing out aliens theory presupposes the value of human life as part of the ecosystem. Tptb are eugenicists who found non nuclear means to depopulate. 

Bossmanhulk

Most information related to reptilians mentions that they live in underground tunnel systems and cities.

WillingLawfulness632

Something is always happening we just don’t want to see it

Perroface562

Wow you seriously got me thinking. Good post

Fabreezy28

I love this theory, but the amount of heat we have pumped into the oceans in the last 150 years is equivalent to over 4 billion nuclear bombs, and it's not like no one tested or exploded nukes since the 40s. If the deep people cared about the surface environment or use of nuclear materials, they would have risen up a while back I'd say.

EeeeJay

Disney is going to dump all their unsold dvds of Snow White in a cave then the underground people will watch it , get angry and come to the surface for revenge.

before686entenz

My comment is going to seem like it is way out there, but it seems wise to be cautious.  I know many people have drifted away from Christianity, but the traditional understanding has been Christ "descended into hell" after He was crucified, defeating Hell and death itself, and bringing out prisoners.  The icon of the resurrection (Anastasis), shows broken bars, a key, a lock, and Jesus pulling out Adam and Eve.  

The other understanding is about the "pillars of the earth" and "waters under the earth".  Even a lot of preachers nowadays think it's all metaphorical, but metaphors are usually grounded on real things.  "She's a tank" is a real person who is sturdily built, like a military tank.

Anyway, i think Jonathan Pageau explains this better than i do, but i can't find a good link. Basically, the ancient world say not just the "Great Chain of Being", but a cosmic architecture, with heaven (different levels!) At the top, waters between earth and heaven, earth and humans, waters below the earth, and below those waters, hell/hades.  God, as creator, has omniscience, omnipotence and omnipresence, so He can be anywhere/everywhere.  But other spiritual beings can travel/fight each other/bring messages to humans/ tempt humans - and they are not just symbolic.  They are reality.  They exist and want.  They are different from us, with our embodied, short lives.  But the ones below the earth "fell" from heaven, and resent humanity, God's creation, made with freewill and treated with infinite patience by God.

Anyway, i agree things are below us, and i believe they are real,malevolent, older and probably a lot smarter than us.  But we have a loving God who tips the scales when we humble ourselves and pray.

szfehler

nice theory. I will add one more piece of the puzzle for you, check out the deepest hole ever dug in Russia and the sounds they heard comming from there

chybny_kus

And this:


https://www.earth.com/news/continent-sized-islands-llsvp-found-inside-earth-are-100-times-taller-than-mount-everest/

Educational_Ad9982

Happy_Laugh_Guy

I am from Cyprus/Europe. Many years ago my Grandparents used to mention  about 'Tartara of Earth'     

Translated from Wikipedia: to shorten reply:    

Tartarus according to Greek Mythology is a secondary deity of the underworld, son of Pluto or Aether or Chaos and Gaia. More generally, however, it is referred to as a mythical place also called Tartara where, according to ancient beliefs, the wicked are tortured after their death.....     

I know many old people that mention Tartara the area beneath Earth, my Grandparents said the same thing  as others have since said that these people were tall or giants and roamed the lands (here above) to bring an equilibrium of good&gt; They say the story has been changed in Holy books from ancient writings even naming 'Seraphim and Nephilim' of the good and bad of these people, Seraphim (?) being the good people from below and Nephilim (?) people from above. I have spoke to other religious people and they say the same type of stories

sparxcy

&gt;I believe

The Lacerta files are real, and she talks about there being earth reptilians underground. So you're correct in that regard.

DLS4BZ

&gt;Here’s the short version: I believe there’s something under our feet—not just caves or lava tubes—I’m talking cities. Intelligence. Life. Maybe alien, maybe ancient. Maybe both.

This is my personal belief as well. There are no aliens from outer space. Whatever is here should be called terrans, a race or races of intelligent beings that have been here the whole time who want to communicate with us about as much as we want to communicate with the roach crawling across the bathroom floor. In my view the only aliens on this planet (at the very least alien in spirit/attitude) are homo sapiens. As a collective we treat this planet like an invasive species that doesn't belong here.

CryptoDave75

Can somebody please explain why Mexico is “Hybrid Regime” and not “Flawed Democracy” like some of its peers in Latin America?

West_Technology00

The Greek government controls all institutions, threatens protesters with violence and controls many tv channels.

"Full democracy"

Nal1999

1Lucky_Luke_1

The data appears to be [from here](https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/democracy-index-eiu?tab=table). I don't have time to scour through all the metrics right now, but I'm curious how Eritrea, although near the bottom, got any points at all.

chaoticcoffeecat

Why is France color "flawed" but score (8.0) is "full"?

Straight_Waltz_9530

GustavoistSoldier

This is pretty arbitrary until we know what the actual standards are.  I have a feeling that there is quite a bit of ideology behind the numbers.

Head_Explanation5586

Well in communist China you can propose the passing of a law as a citizen. Good luck with that in those “western democracies”.

Far_Bumblebee_757

Not a big fan of the economist democracy index, just on it's face, the opposite of democratic is not authoritarian.

You can have authoritarian regimes that are very democratic and vice versa, so really it should be a scale of democratic to despotic.

One country this is particularly relevant for is China, It is certainly authoritarian, and that's certainly worthy of criticism, but it's not equally despotic. China has electoral systems, they do not look like western democracies but they are nowhere near as despotic as say Russia's oligarchy or north Korea's dictatorship.

Maxor_The_Grand

I call bullshit on Hungary. It should be lower than a bunch of countries, not higher.

vladgrinch

BulgarianExcellece

Crazy that any country is lower than DPRK. I know Myanmar is bad, but wow

atb0rg

No f\*\*\*ing way is America above a 7 on this "scale"...

Schmitty300

How Turkey is not an authoritarian regime I'll never understand.

Nothing_Special_23

look at India, surrounded by red all around

treatWithKindness

Can't wait to see the 2025 version having the US turned red

itnice

The USA only has 2 parties to choose from, no wonder their democracy is flawed.

BringBackFatMac

I’m a bit skeptical of some of these numbers, especially since this is from a single source in the UK. I would like to see something like this come from a more international group, preferably an NGO.

TheShittyMathGuy

Why is it the Scandinavian countries always "win". Win at democracy, win on health, win on education, win on social cohesion, win on low crime.

wt290

If Spain president can say he will rule without the parlament, control the Constitutional Tribunal with members of his party and still get an 8.1, I’m scared for the ones scoring lower.

paco-ramon

Botswana leading the way in Africa. Very cool. At independence they started as one of the least literate and poorest countries in the world.

taceau

SpotResident6135

A deal has been signed to construct India's first indigenous Polar Research Vessel, aiming to enhance scientific capabilities for Arctic and Antarctic missions.

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